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Enjoy your podcast so much!

I want you to meet your goal by the New Year! 💯🏆 Our first time listening to you was on a camping and road trip this summer loaned from our local library. Even our kids ages 9 & 10 would remind me to play it again when we would get back in the car. Your book is now part of our family memories! Now I listen to your podcast and enjoy your story style so much. Thank you.


These podcasts about the parks are completely addicting! I find myself following the pod cast and looking at a map to see the areas described!! Keeping my own bucket list based on these terrific tales of the parks!! Keep it coming Matt and Karen!

Podcast so much more fun than the books (and I liked the books)

I enjoy listening to the podcasts. A real treat!

Fun, entertaining and informative

Karen and Matt are the best! Matt can delivery a joke and Karen’s laugh is contagious. It’s an informative, relatable and entertaining travel podcast. Keep up the great work!

Such a fun journey !

I just got married and can’t wait to drag my husband along to all the National Parks! I feel like I’m going along on these trips when Iisten, the hosts are engaging folks who are great at describing their adventures. I’ll be listening to all of the episodes released to date — I’m half way through already! Keep up the great work :-)

Love Love your podcasts!!

My husband and I have listened to all of your books while traveling to, in, or home from our National Parks. 22 down with a goal of visiting all in the lower 48 before we retire. Your podcasts are a wonderful follow up to the books; we both get a kick out of your humor and light hearted banter. Keep up the great work!!

Merry Christmas Karen!

Loved the books, now I am enjoying the podcast! I turned the hiking members of my family into Dear Bob and Sue fans as well...looking forward to 2021 when with any luck we all can start traveling freely again! Thanks!

Really great! Keep it up!

Just found out you guys had a podcast! Listened to them all and they’re great!

Absolutely love the show

I look forward to each new episode... so entertaining and funny. I just went to my first NP this year and the show has given me a lot of inspiration to visit more and more parks. Also, Matt and Karen’s banter is hilarious! #relationshipgoals


enjoy the light hearted banter between you two. smile from your laughter

One of my favorite podcasts!

I get excited every time I see a new episode is available. These two are such fun storytellers, and they remind me why I love our national parks and lands so much.

Dear Matt, Karen, Bob and Sue

I absolutely love your podcasts as well as your books. I find myself laughing along with you. Your descriptions make me feel like I’m there with you in your adventures. My parents took my siblings and I on several trips through the years to visit many of the national parks - Yellowstone, Sequoia, Kings Canyon, Yosemite, Grand Canyon, Smokey Mountains and Crater Lake to name a few. Each one different and special in its own unique way. Just finished listening to Dories, Ho-Part 1 and I am writing my very first podcast review to help you reach your 500 review goal. Merry Christmas and thanks for entertaining us.

Almost 500!

Dear Karen - here’s hoping your wish for 500 reviews by Christmas is delivered. And to you and Matt, thank you - the podcasts have made this year of diminished travel more bearable (no pun intended). I eagerly look forward to new episodes and often replay them while driving. Y’all make great traveling companions! Hopefully 2021 will find all of us on the road visiting the national parks of our dreams. Happy hiking!

Love it!

I’m so glad I discovered your podcasts!! I enjoy hearing about your adventures and love the side stories you tell. Listening to your podcasts are like sitting around with friends swapping stories. Since traveling isn’t encouraged right now, or getting together with friends you two and your podcasts are the next best thing!Your books are on my Christmas list. Hint, hint Santa. :)

Great podcast!

Love the podcast! Can’t wait to read your books

Dorie Ho Episode

Now I want to do a river trip on the Colorado. I have done the rim to Phantom and hiked back up and loved it. I had a bad white water experience in TN and haven’t done it since. But who knows? Also I love the goodness of the snowplow driver and McDonald’s employees in returning your wallet. People ARE GOOD all over the world I have found in my travels. Love Karen’s giggles.

Dear Bob and Sue

I love love this podcast!! They do an amazing job of educating and entertaining at the same time!! Very inspirational 😍

Love the travel stories!

I love the podcast and the Dear Bob and Sue books! My fiance and I are 29 and we love traveling to national parks and it’s so fun to hear about all the cool places in the US!

Very informative

And entertaining! You two are the best.

Dear Matt and Karen…

After reading or listening to your four books, I’ve now discovered your podcasts. Thanks for being genuine people who share your love of the great outdoors. (Clearly, selling several million books hasn’t gone to your heads.) I appreciate the fun and facts in each episode and look forward to using your advice when our travel plans resume. When I run, walk, or bike I listen to a podcast or two nearly every day. That means I’ll be running out very soon — so I’m hoping you’ll be able to crank out a lot more episodes this winter. Thanks for your good work — this is one of the best podcasts about our National Parks and public lands.

My favorite podcast

Love the podcast and love all the books! The stories are filled with humor and awesome info about the parks. My bucket list gets longer every time I listen to a new episode. Please don’t ever stop exploring and sharing it with us.

The BEST Podcast!

By far one of my favorite podcasts! Love hearing all about Matt and Karen’s adventures. The tips they provide are awesome and it makes me want to plan more trips to explore our great nation! Their wit and humor make this podcast fun and entertaining. Karen’s laugh is contagious and the fun banter between the two of them makes this podcast that much better! I hope I get to meet them someday while I’m exploring with my friends and family. Would even love to add their passport stamp to my book! 😀

So entertaining and informative.

I love this podcast and the books that they support. We have gleaned a lot of info from Matt and Karen. Thanks for all of the fun stories.

Love your podcasts!

October. 2020I knew I was going to have an hour commute to school this year, so I saved these podcasts for the drives. I started back this week, and your chats make that hour fly by. I especially love hearing about your adventures in places I’ve also been to. You make me want to go back and back and back again. PS- There are lots and lots of free range bison in Alaska that can be seen if you drive the AlCan Highway. PS. 11/20 I still love traveling vicariously with you two. Both of my knees are now artificial, so I think my backpacking days are behind me. I still love day hiking, and you inspire to get out and see more. Oh- and my hour+ commute takes me right by the National Bison Range in Moiese, MT. I think of you two every time the bison are hanging out on the west side.

Thank you Matt and Karen!

Five stars does not seem like enough. My husband and I have been fans of your books since I saw the first one advertised on Facebook. Your podcast is even better. I love your descriptions of our public lands and all your experiences on the trails. We laugh with you, and sit on the edge of our chairs at your adventures. Oh, sometimes we even have a beer with you. You are one of the brightest lights for us in this year of COVID. You are awesome.

Dear Bob and Sue

I love your podcasts, Matt and Karen! You seem to have so much fun on all of your adventures! Thank you for the bonus episode - my Christmas list just got longer 😊

Lighthearted and informative

I’ve listened to the podcasts with my son and laughed along with Matt and Karen. There adventures have inspired us to explore some of the parks in Utah as well as get out and explore more in our home state of Washington. Matt and Karen are like good friends you’ve never met. Please keep taking us along on your next adventures!

Life Goals

I love the stories of all their adventures. They inspire me to get outdoors and explore. They are funny and informative too. I can related to the husband wife challenges on road trips. Have added many places to my bucket list based on some of the adventures! They are my life goals for me and my husband!


We enjoy listening to your podcast episodes as we travel with our RV. We have so more to see. Thanks for all your helpful tips in the Parks. The USA is beautiful ! Mike n Loretta J

Fun to compare notes

I enjoy listening to this podcast and comparing notes to my family’s National park trips. I hope the podcast inspires people to get off the beaten path and explore the corners more.